Re: Debate Topic
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:44 am

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I second that opinion. ;3Alexander wrote:Anyways, I suggest not to get into religion much.
hahaanimalguy888 wrote:yes this is true it will happen over 5 billion years from now. It will become a red giant and engulf at last most of the planets. It will then shrink down to a white dwarf star. which is tiny in comparison to what it is now. there are many types of dwarf stars,all having to do with the death of a star. one type of drarf star is small enough compared to it original state to fit in the grand canyon here on earth. a dwarf possoses very little threat and is not a doomsday senario. The prosses of a high mass star colpsing into a neutron star or black hole does pose a threat if close enough. this threat is imposible to pridict because it would have to come from 6 billion light years at he speed of light.Ill point out that while there is an ending to every story,including the story of life on earth. Its down right imposble to pridict the end of this book. So i think theres no need to worry about the end of te world. It will happen just probbly not now from what i see we are only half way through the book.sparkwolf111 wrote:actually, the sun, acording to scientists only has 5.4 billions years left until it begins to ingulf the planets
The sun ingulfing the planets? I doupt that.sparkwolf111 wrote:actually, the sun, acording to scientists only has 5.4 billions years left until it begins to ingulf the planets
acually its true, it will happen in due time. The sun is like an oven baking hydrogen atoms into helium atoms. What happens if fuel runs out and the oven shuts off? it wll go into the red giant fase which is like a back up oven to keep baking for a while.the red giant is red and is a giant. It will grow so large that its beyond earths orbit and earth will be burnt to a crisp. Even if earth survives te red gian fase it is far from over, eventuallly it wll condense into a tightly packed white dwarf star. Which happens when the backup oven expires. It stops fusing the atoms it has left and i we survive the intire soler system will enter a deep freeze. another way stars die is with a gamma-ray burst. which is like hitting the self-destruct button. It the most powerful explosion in the universe. the end of the world through gamma-ray burst is possible it just need to happen under 6 billion light years away. The flash of bright light in the night sky... Thats a gamma-ray burst coming from another galaxy. on averege a gamma-ray burst hapens once every day.Jade wrote:The sun ingulfing the planets? I doupt that.sparkwolf111 wrote:actually, the sun, acording to scientists only has 5.4 billions years left until it begins to ingulf the planets
Not really they have examples. The sun is not one of a kind. The got billions just like it. Stars have three main classes. Small mass star,mediem mass stars like our sun,and high mass stars. All things have an end even stars. (No offence but have you even studied star. This is simple middle school learned infromation) You can notice at least one dying star per day. The have seen mediem mass stars die with the most powerful telescopes in te world. . the sun also has an end just as other stars do. As does life on earth. the only reason the sun is here now is becuase its fusing hydrogen into helium with nuclear fusion.(edited for spelling erorr it said fission which is te oppisote of what im talking about fusion is combining atoms and fission is ripping them apart.) eventally the fuel is going run out and the sun will die and go from main sequence to red giant to white dwarf. I mean come on you can learn half of this in middle school.Jade wrote:I'm not saying I don't believe in most of the things sciencetist has to say.But,there are somethings they can't prove.Evolution for example; Do you really think a big explosion happened out of nowhere and created life?Sciencetist try real hard to find out how life was created;but,they can't really prove it. And the planets,moon,and sun perfectly in place.The sun is not too close or too far,but just right to sustain life on Earth.But,then everyone has thier own belief.Now,about the sun ingulfing Earth.Sciencetist have no real proof the Earth will be engulfed by the sun.I'm pretty sure it's all guessing.I do believe something will happen; not the end of planet Earth though.Then again everyone has his or her own belief.


Even if the sun doesn't destroy our planet, it will eventually get so hot everything will die out anyway...animalguy888 wrote:Not really they have examples. The sun is not one of a kind. The got billions just like it. Stars have three main classes. Small mass star,mediem mass stars like our sun,and high mass stars. All things have an end even stars. (No offence but have you even studied star. This is simple middle school learned infromation) You can notice at least one dying star per day. The have seen mediem mass stars die with the most powerful telescopes in te world. . the sun also has an end just as other stars do. As does life on earth. the only reason the sun is here now is becuase its fusing hydrogen into helium with nuclear fusion.(edited for spelling erorr it said fission which is te oppisote of what im talking about fusion is combining atoms and fission is ripping them apart.) eventally the fuel is going run out and the sun will die and go from main sequence to red giant to white dwarf. I mean come on you can learn half of this in middle school.Jade wrote:I'm not saying I don't believe in most of the things sciencetist has to say.But,there are somethings they can't prove.Evolution for example; Do you really think a big explosion happened out of nowhere and created life?Sciencetist try real hard to find out how life was created;but,they can't really prove it. And the planets,moon,and sun perfectly in place.The sun is not too close or too far,but just right to sustain life on Earth.But,then everyone has thier own belief.Now,about the sun ingulfing Earth.Sciencetist have no real proof the Earth will be engulfed by the sun.I'm pretty sure it's all guessing.I do believe something will happen; not the end of planet Earth though.Then again everyone has his or her own belief.
here are some diagrams I found.
future red giant phase...
the white dwarf in the diagram is an actual discovered star. It like other white dwarfs are the remains of a mediem mas star. Our own sun is an exact copy of all mediem mass stars. This will happen to us in soon. THe estimated age of the soler sisyem is 4.5 billion years. the life span of a mediem mass star is 10 billion years. so were about half way to the end of the sun.
Alexander wrote:I would definitely keep the subject on religion v science (would this be the proper way to say it?) pretty light. You do not want to end up fighting over what you believe in or understand. It is your choice as to what you believe in, and it is everyone else's choice to believe in what they want. Religious freedom, yes? Let people believe in what they want, that is their business. It's basically like one religion fighting over another because that religion is different. In this case it would be religious people fighting over people that are non-religious. Do you get where I'm going with this? I don't mean to offend anyone, just that it's useless to fight when you know you won't change someone's mind. You can want to change someone's mind, but doesn't mean you should.
Moving on to current subject..
I think it is improper to say that there was an explosion and then came life. I don't think it's really known how life started (let alone when) other than what your religion might say. Well, it's either that or I don't believe in what everyone has to offer so far as to how life was created. As an open thinker I research for facts and how to prove it. Then again I never really looked up how life "began". Maybe I'll start on that later.
I'm afraid I do not believe in the "Big Bang Theory" either. To me it seems too.. I don't know, weird? I can't simply think of the universe starting out like that, so yes, I agree that I do not believe in the Big Bang Theory.
And that's basically what I meant to add in, Quagga, was that this was something that was proposed scientifically, and which was later disproved and people really don't have to worry about it anymore. I forgot to add that in, that was a bad mistake on my part.